Courtney: Okay, good afternoon. Thanks for coming back. Now, we were going to talk about UFOs today. Now, the biggest question I'm going to start off this interview with is simply: Do you believe in UFOs? Michael: Well, I don't believe that they're impossible. I think if we can build, allegedly, a rocket ship, a UFO can't be too far into the future. And if we accept that there is a possibility of advanced life, out in a universe that we cannot see that far into-we can't see to every end, to every planet-if we accept that there's at least the possibility that other life forms are out there, then certainly there's a possibility of an intergalactic space travel vehicle. Courtney: Mm-hmm.
Michael: And something about space and time that I've come to accept is that if a technology can be labeled "space-age," it's always existed through time, because the very nature of intergalactic space travel would, in some sense, be the mastery of time travel. Courtney: Mm-hmm.
Right, I see.
Michael: Having to go at accelerated rates to get there before you pass away.
Courtney: Traveling at the speed of light, most likely.
Michael: Close to it.
Courtney: The speed of light, if I remember correctly, is 300,000 kilometers per second. That's very fast. Michael: Very.
Courtney: Very fast. Now, what do you think about crop circles and this whole controversial phenomenon about crop circles and how they came to be?
Michael: Well, a lot of people want to say that they are hoaxes, and certainly there have been some hoaxes out there, but when you look at, really, if you've-like my friend has a whole collection of images of crop circles, and the real ones are complete fractals. They're completely, intricately designed, very mass level. They cover a very large area, and there's no edge that's jagged. They're completely symmetrical, completely perfect. The ones that are hoaxes tend to be, you know, like a fifteenth, a twentieth the size, and totally not-smooth edges. So, what I've heard about the crop circles is that they sort of appear within twenty minutes, like some guy will be looking at his field and then twenty minutes later, there's this huge image of something or other out there. So the other theory is that what's making these designs in the crops-and that's not harming the wheat at the same time, it's just pushing it down, and it's not leaving any footprints-most likely is some kind of hovering spacecraft that is, through some power, designing these sort of, like-well, if the current theory about spaceships, like the circular sort of space pod we've become used to seeing in sci-fi novels and movies. If that type of structure exists, it would most-and if it was capable of reaching close to the speed of light-it would have to run on electromagnetics. So kind of a circular electromagnetic engine that's manipulated minorly to propel it, and the energy that it's harnessing is actually the electrons around it. So if such a space vehicle, such a spacecraft, is capable of existing, it's generating all this-huge amounts of electromagnetic energy to keep it floating, there's nothing to say that there can't be some sort of projection scope, or some sort of electromagnetic Etch-a-Sketch that is making the crop circles. Courtney: Very interesting .